Posts by The Fall Guy

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Older Watchtowers and Awakes added on jw.org Online library

by AuntBee in

wt back to 1950, aw back to 1970, like the cd rom library... .

why?

lol.

"You owe Jehovah humility and HONESTY" - an email from a JW

by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

hey forum goers.

i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.

bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.

Hey WHAM, if you don't mind, I'll PM you my 14 favourite scriptural/literature questions & answers in the next few minutes - contradictions which I'll gladly present to any (unfamiliar) J.W.'s who couldn't rat on me for pointing out such 'evil slave' dogma.

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JWs studying with a neighbor: what should I do?

by john.prestor in

so let me introduce myself first: i've lurked here for years because i'm working on a long-term research project concerning jehovah's witnesses and i've collected data from this site (seriously, you guys are awesome, i've learned so much from this forum i never would have learned otherwise).

i've also collected data at multiple kingdom halls and read scholarly works on jehovah's witnesses and non-scholarly works as well (e.g., crisis of conscience).

so i have a pretty good sense of jehovah's witnesses even though i was not raised in this faith nor did i ever join up.

The Fall Guy

Welcome to the forum, John. The advice you've received and used has been very good. Keep us updated on any further developments.

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Has anyone seen this?

by wokeup in

google: vintage freemason compilation collinsworth family.. several pages into the program has a familiar face..

The Fall Guy

Is this real or has it been photoshopped? It looks like something CTR used in his business model.

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Why NO bibles??

by stuckinarut2 in

i know we have all said it before, but it simply blows my mind that the jws doing cart work do not have bibles on the cart to give out to interested ones!.

how can they say they are "bible students" trying to share the "bibles message" and not give out bibles!?.

other christian groups take the commission to share the bible seriously!

The Fall Guy

The vast majority of JW's (in my experience) were not "Bible students," they were literature students. Now they are "tablet students."

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2018 Courage Convention video invitation

by Listener in

the video invitation for the 2018 convention is just creepy.

i thought it was some parody at first as it seems 'dark'.it begins with a young man being pushed whilst standing at his locker and the voice over says that 'in critical times we need courage more than ever'.

next, comes a clip of a male putting his hand on the shoulder of a female worker, the look she gives him would be enough to give him nightmares for the next year.

The Fall Guy

J.W.'s, "Be Courageous" and start asking yourselves serious questions about the teachings & direction of the religion you joined 10, 20, 30, 40, or 50 years ago. It is not the same one today, is it?

Tele-evangelism is the order of the day for the preaching work, the CLAM meetings, and every assembly & convention. Video has replaced the Bible as the org's principle teaching method.

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JW's - Are you in a "THEOCRATIC arrangement" or an AUTOCRATIC one?

by The Fall Guy in

i now know which system i was under!.

theocratic/theocracy: a system of government in which priests rule in the name of god or a god.

(oxford dictionary).

The Fall Guy

I now know which system I was under!

Theocratic/Theocracy: A system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god. (Oxford Dictionary)

Didn't Jesus allegedly begin ruling as High Priest in God's name in 1914? Sorry, I forgot that Mr. Rutherford elected his own "theocratic" priesthood 4 years later - when he & his henchmen hijacked the org after getting out of the pokey!

Autocratic/Autocracy: Taking no account of other people's wishes or opinions; domineering. (O.D.)

Typical characteristics of an autocracy:

1) Little or no input from group members

2) Leaders make almost all of the decisions

3) Group leaders dictate all the work methods and processes

4) Group members are rarely trusted with decisions or important tasks

5) Work tends to be highly structured and very rigid

6) Creativity and out-of-the box thinking tend to be discouraged

7) Rules are important and tend to be clearly outlined and communicated

Do these characteristics sound familiar?

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You have to smile at the irony of this article!!

by The Fall Guy in

awake 22nd april 1970 p. 8 changes that disturb people .

"why is there this decline in religion?

…..millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong....a businessman in medellín, colombia, expressed the effect the changes have had on many......"just ten years ago we catholics had the absolute truth, we put all our faith in this.

The Fall Guy

Jehovah's Witnesses are not only oblivious to the fact that their org has changed the historical date of Jerusalem's destruction to 607 BCE, but also that their hierarchy can alter meanings in the English language! According to virtually every definition, the word CHRISTENDOM effectively means being a part of Christianity.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Christendom -

1: Christianity

2: The part of the world in which Christianity prevails

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christendom

...the "Christian world": worldwide community of Christians, the adherents of Christianity, the Christian-majority countries, the countries in which Christianity dominates or prevails...

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/christendom - The worldwide body or society of Christians.

Jehovah's Witnesses' indoctrination teaches them that the word CHRISTENDOM is a derogatory term which describes false Christianity and false Christians.

Wake up JW's - you are all members of Christendom!

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You have to smile at the irony of this article!!

by The Fall Guy in

awake 22nd april 1970 p. 8 changes that disturb people .

"why is there this decline in religion?

…..millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong....a businessman in medellín, colombia, expressed the effect the changes have had on many......"just ten years ago we catholics had the absolute truth, we put all our faith in this.

The Fall Guy

Awake 22nd April 1970 p. 8 Changes That Disturb People

"Why is there this decline in religion? …..millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong....A businessman in Medellín, Colombia, expressed the effect the changes have had on many......"Just ten years ago we Catholics had the absolute truth, we put all our faith in this. Now the pope and our priests (GB & elders) are telling us this is not the way to believe any more, but we are to believe ‘new things.’ How do I know the ‘new things’ will be the truth in five years?”

I can feel schadenfreude coming on!

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JW Christians Are Supposed to be Good, BUT.....

by OnTheWayOut in

so, serving "the one true god" and being "in the truth" are supposed to make jw's better people.

they are bringing their "truth" to people and that probably makes them feel that they are good to "worldly" people.but they do it to "get their time in.

" they do it no longer in any life-saving mentality.

The Fall Guy

I wonder how many ex-JW's on this forum have knowledge of elderly, faithful JW's who were basically dumped into nursing/retirement homes and were effectively abandoned and forgotten by 95% of their "brothers & sisters?"

So much for the hallmark of Christians - "By this all will know that you are my disciples." I've seen rodents demonstrate more care and affection for ones in their commune.